[FONT="]I'm looking for relatively thin pine or cedar logs (raw, not milled), to make at least one kiva (wood log) ladder, (for example, see http://www.grandriverdoor.com/grs/kivaLadders.aspx) and some drum stands. I'll need eight foot logs at about 3 1/2 or 4 inches diameter for posts, and a little smaller, around 2 1/2 inch diameter for rungs. I live in Raleigh (none of my own trees to cut) -- anyone know of a source? Thanks! ... Rick[/FONT]