What WOOD Would You Use for this Gun
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1. Lignum vitae
2. teak
3. Honduras Mahogany
4. Clear, all heart, old growth redwood
2. teak
3. Honduras Mahogany
4. Clear, all heart, old growth redwood
I would try to be as faithful to the original wood construction as possible. What kind of wood was originally used?
Finishes have improved a lot over the years so I would go with a more modern finish that protects better than the original yet gives the same approximate appearance as the original.
Finishes have improved a lot over the years so I would go with a more modern finish that protects better than the original yet gives the same approximate appearance as the original.
Whatever wood you choose, I would make two so they match. If you only make one, they may be a close match initially, but a year from now they won't match.
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Or the 4 Bob said
Or the 4 Bob said
I don’t know what the original was. I can’t find any information and the one that I took off was plywood. So someone had replaced the original at some point
If absolute correct visual, then you need more research. It could have been natural wood finish, but it could just as likely been painted green. I guess that decision may be up to the customer. ( your POC at the Guard)
Color is wrong for most of the woods suggested to match the picture, but as you say, you don;t know if it is correct. You can bet it was not an exotic imported wood originally. More likely hickory, ash, or oak.
Any wood finish lasts only a few years. How likely would it be someone maintain the finish every year. Go ask a Choy Lee owner what it takes to maintain teak! The pieces are not too large, so have you considered vacuum pot some poly with something having an open grain.
Color is wrong for most of the woods suggested to match the picture, but as you say, you don;t know if it is correct. You can bet it was not an exotic imported wood originally. More likely hickory, ash, or oak.
Any wood finish lasts only a few years. How likely would it be someone maintain the finish every year. Go ask a Choy Lee owner what it takes to maintain teak! The pieces are not too large, so have you considered vacuum pot some poly with something having an open grain.
In that case maybe a bit more info is needed. Where was it originally built? Any identifying info that may point to the construction materials? It was an army piece and many of those are well documented. Worth a shot, especially if it's been replaced before. There may be notes somewhere out there on that job. Never know.
I'd be inclined to believe it was likely white oak originally but that's a SWAG.
And Allan, I still love the boat
The correct answer is 'whatever your client wants'. If they leave it up to you: anything weather resistant that minimizes maintenance. If it's going to be painted, I'd use PVC. (My guess: it was probably painted. I can't imagine any soldier wanting brightwork on his AA piece).
The good news is the gun that the woodwork attaches to - if it's the same as your picture - was made by various Soviet Bloc countries and post WW2 China, so you can do a terrible job and it'll fit right in.
en.wikipedia.org
-Mark
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The good news is the gun that the woodwork attaches to - if it's the same as your picture - was made by various Soviet Bloc countries and post WW2 China, so you can do a terrible job and it'll fit right in.
ZPU - Wikipedia
-Mark
two-barrel-zpu-anti-aircraft-system-2-copy-jpg.228794/
Trex
That would be the hint on "local" native woods. The above picture does show them in what looks like raw light colored wood. It was probably something real cheap. Preservation will still be key as no one is going to go out and oil it every year. I go back to something you can vacuum infuse.The correct answer is 'whatever your client wants'. If they leave it up to you: anything weather resistant that minimizes maintenance. If it's going to be painted, I'd use PVC. (My guess: it was probably painted. I can't imagine any soldier wanting brightwork on his AA piece).
The good news is the gun that the woodwork attaches to - if it's the same as your picture - was made by various Soviet Bloc countries and post WW2 China, so you can do a terrible job and it'll fit right in.
ZPU - Wikipedia
-Mark
two-barrel-zpu-anti-aircraft-system-2-copy-jpg.228794/
I would go with white oak-----------oil finish
From a Russian site:
Sparen development anti-aircraft machine gun was started on a competitive basis on Plant № 2. In November 1944 year the first design sample was made WITH. AT. Vladimirov and G. P. Markova, approximately copying a napkin with a German anti-aircraft gun 2 cm Flak 38. B 1945 year sample passed comparative tests with design installation F. AT. Tokareva, which he successfully won. After eliminating comments and improvements, in 1948 year test sites and military tests were passed as an experienced model. B 1949 year ZPU-2 was adopted. Serial production was deployed to Plant № 525
Based on this, and other weapons coming out of Russia and China - most any wood was used. To that end, I'd go with what the customer wants...
Sparen development anti-aircraft machine gun was started on a competitive basis on Plant № 2. In November 1944 year the first design sample was made WITH. AT. Vladimirov and G. P. Markova, approximately copying a napkin with a German anti-aircraft gun 2 cm Flak 38. B 1945 year sample passed comparative tests with design installation F. AT. Tokareva, which he successfully won. After eliminating comments and improvements, in 1948 year test sites and military tests were passed as an experienced model. B 1949 year ZPU-2 was adopted. Serial production was deployed to Plant № 525
Based on this, and other weapons coming out of Russia and China - most any wood was used. To that end, I'd go with what the customer wants...
here is the picture of the actual gun. Also a couple of pictures of what i took off. The Owner is indifferent and doesn't really care.
So basic in our architectural design, we are creating a plaza out here with a flag pole and paved area for this gun to rest. It will be a lot better condition then how it is now. The General Contractor is going to have the gun repainted. The owner doesnt have a lot of knowledge about this piece and its not a museum area or needs to be a history accurate representation. It is also zero chance that the Owner will maintain anything on it. So what I comes down to is the best wood and finish that will last as long as possible in the elements.
So basic in our architectural design, we are creating a plaza out here with a flag pole and paved area for this gun to rest. It will be a lot better condition then how it is now. The General Contractor is going to have the gun repainted. The owner doesnt have a lot of knowledge about this piece and its not a museum area or needs to be a history accurate representation. It is also zero chance that the Owner will maintain anything on it. So what I comes down to is the best wood and finish that will last as long as possible in the elements.
