Does anyone have experience with Laguna Table Saws. I am looking at getting a new saw and was just doing some online research. The Laguna saws are priced really competitive, especially compared to Saw Stop. Thoughts
Where do you Harvey thru. I know I can get Laguna thru KlingsporI did a LOT of research online as none in a store to look at. F1 and F2 are very light weight aluminum trunnion saws. It looks like the same basic saw is sold under several other brands as their entry level. F3 is much heavier. The feature I did not like is the distance from blade to table front edge. It is much shorter than others. Other than that, the F3 looked like a very good saw and value. Some say good dust collection, some say poor. I found a couple comments the F3 "ran as smooth as a Powermatic"
Download the owners manuals for any saws you are considering and see how they are built. Weight is another hint.
There are two blade lift mechanisms. Curved rack and pinion or a jack screw. Not sure there is much difference other than if the blade moves fore and aft as it moves up and down. One pivots on a shaft, the other moves in ways. Maybe a small convenience is marking where on the table the blade center is for accurate height measurement. There are differences in how wide the support of the trunnion is. I love the front tilt wheel on the Delta, but it would be a great step forward if their service and support was only terrible.
Then I discovered HARVEY. I just bought their C-14 band saw and it is a freaking tank! Over on lumberjocks is a new review of someone who just got his Harvey table saw. The Ambassador looks like the trunnion of one of the heaviest Grizzlies and their top line looks like the Powermatic trunnion. My eye is on the 3 HP Ambassador.
All this is assuming you do not want to put out the expense for a Saw Stop. Also very nice saws, but an equipped SS 3 HP runs close to 4 grand delivered, where the Harvey is less than half that. If you have the money, SS is great. Good tools. If not, well...
The legal history is available on the WEB if you search/ Public documents. I did and read them. One more time. Yes they make a very good saw and if you can afford one, a good choice. If I had the extra money, I would. As far as Festool and their proprietary every thing game, just read their catalog. As far as SawStop playing games with extras that are not really extra, again just read the catalog. No mysteries. No dirt from competition. No conspiracies.I always wonder about all the woodworking forum, social media stuff said about the business practice. I wonder if anyone ever has a legitimate source for all these rumors of evil doings. I do know that when Bosch tried to have a saw with the same feature they lost in patent court and had to pull the product. I have no idea of the legitimacy of all the claims that someone was forcing their technology to be mandatory. It would be a smart policy of competitors to undermine the integrity of a company in social media, oh that never happens.
Like I said I have no knowledge of any of that stuff. I do think much of it is rumor and mis-information. I just have never seen any source for all these rumors so who do you believe?? For me, they make a high quality product and that is what I want.
A PCS with the good fence, dado brake and insert, wheels, working dust collector, etc. is roughly $4000. Even an F3, which looks like a very nice saw is roughly $2000. Only issue I have with the Laguna F3 is the short distance from front edge to blade. A couple less than everyone else. The F1 and F2 have a much lighter aluminum trunnion shared with several other entry cabinet saws. I have not heard complaints about them but for me in wiid machines, the more iron the better. Euro fences mean you may need to convert your fence riding jigs to t-slot jigs.