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Scott
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I used some dye I got from Klingspor on a couple of projects. "Me likey" But, very expensive even though a drop goes a long way. Just saw a comment on using leather dye. About 1/3 the price. Anyone tried this?
 

Graywolf

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Richard
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Leather dye, cloth dye will work as well. With that said the color fastness could come into question. It’s worth playing with, I’m planning on messing around with some cloth dye. I just haven’t had time yet.
 

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Jim
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I have used rubber stamp refill ink, black, before on a walnut picture frame. The frame was going over an old type set tray and I needed it to look kinda like it was handled by ink stained hands like in a print shop.shot a few coats of clear Laquer over it and it can out nicely for a first time use. Not many color options though. It was subtle but made a difference especially on the sides.
 

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Hitch
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I bought a bunch of Easter egg dye on sale after Easter on year. Figured it would be foodsafe.
 

Robert LaPlaca

Robert
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Transtint and Transfast both are are available in larger quantities directly from Homestead Finishing. Both products are really concentrated and make a pretty impressive quantity of dye, I typically find myself diluting the already diluted base dye.
 

Hmerkle

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Hank
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What about India inks?
I am not sure what the base is (alcohol or ??)
 

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Scott
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Was also watching something on enobizing using some funky high tanic acid tea and iron/vinigar.
 

Graywolf

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Richard
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I bought some India Ink recently and the base is shellac.
Actually shellac was added as a medium, it makes a little more durable and somewhat water proof. You can also add other mediums to make it water proof and more durable. But most India inks are water and soot.
 

JNCarr

Joe
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I dont know about other brands, but I prefer Speedball India Ink because it's just carbon black in water. Carbon black is chemically different than soot (it's actually anthracitic carbon, not under-burnt hydrocarbons). It's worth the extra $ to work with a chemically inert, pH neutral coating.
 

Hmerkle

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Hank
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Actually shellac was added as a medium, it makes a little more durable and somewhat water proof. You can also add other mediums to make it water proof and more durable. But most India inks are water and soot.
I don't get it - if India Ink is water based, why does it seem so "permanent"?
 

ScottM

Scott
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For some of my scroll saw work I have had good success with RIT fabric dye dissolved in DNA when used on baltic birch plywood. Soak time is usually 5 -10 minutes. The longer the soak the deeper the color. After the dye dries I over spray with poly. I have not attempted this process on solid woods.
 

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Pete
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I dont know about other brands, but I prefer Speedball India Ink because it's just carbon black in water. Carbon black is chemically different than soot (it's actually anthracitic carbon, not under-burnt hydrocarbons). It's worth the extra $ to work with a chemically inert, pH neutral coating.
I have a bottle of Speedball Super Black, and it contains shellac.
 

Graywolf

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Richard
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Basic India ink is composed of a variety of fine soot, known as lampblack, combined with water to form a liquid. No binder material is necessary: the carbon molecules are in colloidal suspension and form a waterproof layer after drying. A binding agent such as gelatin or, more commonly, shellac may be added to make the ink more durable once dried. India ink is commonly sold in bottled form, as well as a solid form as an inkstick (most commonly, a stick), which must be ground and mixed with water before use. If a binder is used, India ink may be waterproof or non-waterproof.
 

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