Raised Panel Doors - Need 2 made

[Leviblue]

I've been asked to help with 2 raised panel doors for an entertainment cabinet a friend has. Though I have the bits and equipment to make the doors, I don't have the ability to make these larger doors that are needed. So with that said, anyone here in the Raleigh area interested in pricing out basic raised panel doors made out of stain grade oak? The doors will need to fit a face frame cabinet with interior dimensions of 55" wide by 29.5". The overlap will need to be standard .5". European recessed hinges in the door frame with face frame edge installation.

Thanks,

 

[JimD]

So the doors need to be about 27.5 inches by 29.5 inches? That is not a terribly big door. I've made bigger on a router table (out of oak with 3/4 raised panels). I think you should just do it. I'd put a center stile so the panels are not terribly wide.

 

[Leviblue]

They requested the full panels. I'm not setup to flatten one that wide from the glue up. I'll have to see if I can jig something,


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[ehpoole]

They requested the full panels. I'm not setup to flatten one that wide from the glue up. I'll have to see if I can jig something.

You really have two choices there, glue up 2 or 3 narrower boards (already jointed and planed) to make your large flat panel OR laminate veneer to a plywood (or better still, a more stable MDF core). Either will get you a wide flat inner panel with proper care, though the latter choice yields a highly stable panel that is less prone to dimensional changes with humidity.

Or you could request a few minutes of time on a member's wide drum or belt sander and achieve the same, perhaps a bit more quickly and on your first try -- I am sure we have members, possibly near you even, who would happily volunteer to allow you to use their equipment just for the asking (and minimal, if any, cost) as such us a great way to meet fellow woodworkers.

But, ultimately, whether you do it yourself or farm out the job is entirely up to you as it is your project.

 

[Skymaster]

what size stiles and rails? Normal ( std) 2 1/4"? Have you machined all your material to one size? You say you have ALL bits, are they router bits? What profile?

 

[Phil S]

Another option is to have one of the custom door manufacturer make them. Walzcraft.com is the best - any style, wood, size. They will even prep for your hinges. Competitive pricing, excellent customer service and made in the USA

 

[McRabbet]

One of our advertisers, Steve Wall Lumber, makes custom raised panel doors. Here is the link. Support an NC company and one of our advertisers.

 

[Phil S]

One of our advertisers, Steve Wall Lumber, makes custom raised panel doors. Here is the link. Support an NC company and one of our advertisers.

thanks I did not realize Steve did this. I will surely try them next

 

[JimD]

My planner is a Ryobi AP-10. It is 10 inches wide. I often make things with wider glue ups than 10 inches. So I flatten the project with my sander (random orbit or belt). You can do the same thing with the glue-up for a raised panel door. I have. But when the glue up doesn't stay flat it causes problems. But not insurmountable ones as long as the lack of flatness is modest (I make the edge narrower than the groove to compensate).

The bigger problem with a solid wood panel around 2 feet wide made of oak can move 1/2 an inch from humidity. I don't see a practical way to keep it captured in the door frame. The groove made by cope and stick bits is not much more than 1/4 inch (maybe 5/16). Some might be 3/8. Those could work but you'd have to be very careful how you size the panel and know it's moisture content and the range the doors will see. This issue with wood movement is why I don't recommend a raised panel door with one panel that wide. If it was a flat panel of plywood, it would be fine. Or possibly a plywood panel with moldings around the edge. But all that is a lot more trouble than making the panels a more practical width.

 

[Jeff]

I'm confused again.

I've been asked to help with 2 raised panel doors for an entertainment cabinet a friend has.

1. What's the look that they want and why does it have to be a raised panel? A pic of the entertainment center would be helpful for a design match.

2. A 23 1/2" w oak wood panel is doable if the wood contraction/expansion is taken into account when sizing the rail/stile groove depth.

3. Anything wrong with a traditional mortise/tenon door construction instead of cope/stick construction for this project?

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[golfdad]

What profile are you looking for and when do you need these doors?

 

[Leviblue]

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what size stiles and rails? Normal ( std) 2 1/4"? Have you machined all your material to one size? You say you have ALL bits, are they router bits? What profile?

Ive not machined any material at the time. As stated I'm not currently setup to make these doors. Thevshaper is sitting on the other side of the garage. The bits are a typical basic panel design.
The table saw has a air filtration box currently sitting on it. I don't use the tab!e saw very often.

 

[Leviblue]

Another option is to have one of the custom door manufacturer make them. Walzcraft.com is the best - any style, wood, size. They will even prep for your hinges. Competitive pricing, excellent customer service and made in the USA

I had a localmcabinet shop quote making these. Let's just say I didn't feel like making his mortgage payment this month.

 

[Leviblue]

I'll contact him and see what he can advise. Thanks for the link. This is a great site for assistance.

 

[Skymaster]

Kevin PM me and we will talk

 

[JimD]

Something else to consider is when to finish the panel. I like to finish raised panels before gluing up the door. I do the inside edge of the rails and stiles too, skipping the areas that will get glued. I finish the panels first mainly to avoid having an unfinished edge show up later if the panel shrinks. For a really wide panel as you plan, getting finish on the whole panel, especially including the end grain, will help to minimize the movement.

So you might want to consider having somebody make you up the parts and let you finish the door and glue up. If they are like me, they would much rather make up the pieces than they would sand and finish.

 

[Skymaster]

something else to consider is when to finish the panel. I like to finish raised panels before gluing up the door. I do the inside edge of the rails and stiles too, skipping the areas that will get glued. I finish the panels first mainly to avoid having an unfinished edge show up later if the panel shrinks. For a really wide panel as you plan, getting finish on the whole panel, especially including the end grain, will help to minimize the movement.

So you might want to consider having somebody make you up the parts and let you finish the door and glue up. If they are like me, they would much rather make up the pieces than they would sand and finish.

amen :d

 

[gfernandez]

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