Thanks Chris. Stopped by th Western Red Cedar place tonight but they were closed by the time I got there. Ya know, I've lived here for 14 years now and never knew that was tucked in back there! Reggie, where is Ivey's? I must admit that at first I discounted your post because I was thought i was specifically looking for cedar, not juniper. That is, until I just read that in NC, that's what Atlantic white is referred to as. I guess this Yankee still has a lot to learn!