Ebb and flow?

Mike Davis

Mike
Corporate Member
It seems like my creativity and production are always going through peeks and valleys.

Right now I have a lot of work to do, my front gates are foremost in my mind at all times.
Also just finished a small turning job duplicating some spindles and making oak post toppers for a staircase.
I spent Saturday at my daughter's house measuring and buying materials to rebuild he porch handrails. The builder used #2 pine for the rails and stiles. We're going back with pressure treated.
I have bought wood to build a small work table to set up my laser and a computer to do design and some other tasks.
This will go in my storage room next to the shop. I continue to clean, rearrange, sort, store, and dispose of tools and lumber.

And I have an order for a big fish styled wooden bowl.

I know I can produce by hand and with the small assortment of power tools in a very small space, with the exception of large tables and cabinets, just about anything I want or need of wood. I have more work to do on marketing and selling my creations.

I feel better about myself, my prospects, my ability, my design perspective, and my life in general than I have in the last several years.

I know all this will change, it always does. For now I'm going with it.

I see the same ebb and flow in the forums here. Some people are making big and amazing things, some must be in the planning stage or taking a break. We are all learning to do more and better all the time. Even those who are coming to the end of a career or moving to a new adventure or even may have decided to quit work altogether still learn new things and pass on valuable lessons to the ones we leave behind. I think about y'all all of the time and always wonder what I can do to help. Even when I need help in the worst way I am also thinking about how to help someone else. I believe this is because when I was very young and asked for help to learn these skills there was no one there. I see a lot of people struggling just like I struggled and there is just no reason for that these days.

I hope you will ask for help if you can...
 
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Rob in NC

Rob
Senior User
Good message. The ebb and flow comes in many variations and as a relatively new woodworker, I have gone through several stages. The same with my knife-making. When I started both endeavors, I knew nothing. Through lots of self learning and trial/error, I've gotten to a certain point of proficiency.

Early on, the overwhelming array of what is possible took hold. I've made knives and small swords of all types and delved into bowls, vases, turned trinkets, charcuterie boards, etc, etc. ...and then I hit a pitfall. Each new thing I wanted to make 'required' a new tool. I say 'required' because it really didnt. If I knew what I was doing, I could make do with most of what I had.

The pitfall that I fell in to (and I even realized it at the time) was tool collecting. Even now, I have a router sled that I've never opened. Various other tools that I've never opened. For me, this caused an issue where that the array of stuff I COULD do was so overwhelming that on a given day I would do not much or even nothing. Maybe turn a small bowl or vase.

Then of course there is the creative inspiration. I've delved into inlays a bit, but after doing a few, I check that off as 'been there, done that' and look for the next new thing.

Time is also a factor as I'm only a weekend warrior and not yet retired.

I'll echo your sentiments about asking for help, but I'll also add to it. Not only ask, but heed the advice of those more experienced. I've not in the past, and I've regretted it.
 

1075tech

Tim
Senior User
I haven't made any sawdust in several weeks. Been busy with work and work around the house.

Trying to organize what I have in the space I have to work with, clean up, and get some better dust collection set up.

@Mike Davis , if you need help with that side room, let me know. I still need to bring you those maple cutoffs if you still want them
 

Mike Davis

Mike
Corporate Member
I haven't made any sawdust in several weeks. Been busy with work and work around the house.

Trying to organize what I have in the space I have to work with, clean up, and get some better dust collection set up.

@Mike Davis , if you need help with that side room, let me know. I still need to bring you those maple cutoffs if you still want them
I can always use maple. I think I need to grill some beef.
 

holcombej

jim
User
Mike, I certainly get the ebb and flow. Listening here to what I feel like is mostly an older, maybe retired group, if y’all are like me, seems like I don’t or wouldn’t have time to work. There’s always a project or 20 that needs to be done around the house that takes away the shop (me) time. As for me, trying to now stay ahead of the fall/winter cleanup with a hip replacement scheduled for Oct. 21. Trying not to start an extended time project in the shop. But I did get it clean last week for the next time I get there!
 

Mike Davis

Mike
Corporate Member
As far as the group goes we are from 12 to nearly 100 and all levels of experience.

For myself, I am still working full time and doing a little woodwork as I get the chance. Sometimes very little and sometimes way too much.

Good luck on the surgery hope it goes well for you.
 

chris_goris

Chris
Senior User
Mike, I too am still working full time. Woodworking for me has been a mix of necessity (remodeling old houses) and a creative outlet for some extra income. But, what Im finding as I get older is, I dont seem to have much free time to do it as I used to for some reason. This is where retirement comes in I guess, 1 -2 more years, Im hoping, but my body (back, hands and other joints) doesnt seem to want to do alot of this work anymore, as much as my mind does. Woodworking in general is a very physically demanding hobby or job that takes its toll. This leads me to my point, My mind tells me go, but my body says rest, stifling creativity at times. I have thought about some sort of retirement maker space and learning center so I can pass on what Ive learned, however basic some skills can seem to us, they can be invaluable to new woodworkers.
 

KenOfCary

Ken
Staff member
Corporate Member
I am finally getting back in the shop - so far mostly to clean and put things in their place. But I need to do that in order to have room to actually start working on new things.

I did get a new pattern vise installed on the end of my workbench so I can use it to finish those walnut spoons we started on a few years ago for my sister.

Now that my back has quit bothering me I need to get back to more woodworking and stop being so sedentary.
 

Mike Davis

Mike
Corporate Member
Mike, I too am still working full time. Woodworking for me has been a mix of necessity (remodeling old houses) and a creative outlet for some extra income. But, what Im finding as I get older is, I dont seem to have much free time to do it as I used to for some reason. This is where retirement comes in I guess, 1 -2 more years, Im hoping, but my body (back, hands and other joints) doesnt seem to want to do alot of this work anymore, as much as my mind does. Woodworking in general is a very physically demanding hobby or job that takes its toll. This leads me to my point, My mind tells me go, but my body says rest, stifling creativity at times. I have thought about some sort of retirement maker space and learning center so I can pass on what Ive learned, however basic some skills can seem to us, they can be invaluable to new woodworkers.
My desire to teach also seems to ebb and flow. I would love to build a school for young woodworkers, meaning young in the craft regardless of chronological age. It sometimes seems so simple and essential but then reality is much more costly and exhausting than the dream.
 

patlaw

Mike
Corporate Member
I'm theposter boy for ebb and flow. Learning woodworking by watching YouTube videos is better than nothing, but it's no substitute for hands-on experience. I'm just not getting it. Now, my lifelong back problem is progressing to the point that I am researching options beyond my chiropractors, who have kept me going for a long time. If I go into the shop, which is my garage, and if I can find a path around the junk, which is a challenge, I have to sit to do anything for more than ten minutes. When I'm done and assembling things, they just don't fit. Hand planes are a figment of my imagination.

Having whined about all of that, everything I have is paid for, and I have a lot, including a Sawstop 36" cabinet saw and a Festool Kapex. (How's that for overkill?) I'm hoping for some back relief as pain killers and power tools don't mix. I keep thinking I'll turn the corner one day and make something that looks decent, but only time will tell. I'm not a quitter.
 

Mike Davis

Mike
Corporate Member
I'm theposter boy for ebb and flow. Learning woodworking by watching YouTube videos is better than nothing, but it's no substitute for hands-on experience. I'm just not getting it. Now, my lifelong back problem is progressing to the point that I am researching options beyond my chiropractors, who have kept me going for a long time. If I go into the shop, which is my garage, and if I can find a path around the junk, which is a challenge, I have to sit to do anything for more than ten minutes. When I'm done and assembling things, they just don't fit. Hand planes are a figment of my imagination.

Having whined about all of that, everything I have is paid for, and I have a lot, including a Sawstop 36" cabinet saw and a Festool Kapex. (How's that for overkill?) I'm hoping for some back relief as pain killers and power tools don't mix. I keep thinking I'll turn the corner one day and make something that looks decent, but only time will tell. I'm not a quitter.
If you can come to my shop we will make something together that you will be proud of and I promise you will learn new skills.
 

patlaw

Mike
Corporate Member
If you can come to my shop we will make something together that you will be proud of and I promise you will learn new skills.
You have always been helpful. Some of my mistakes are so dumb they're embarrassing. If I can get a little relief on my back, I'm going to do my best to take you up on your generous offer. I took a sharpening class from you, but it didn't stick.
 

John Jimenez

JJ
Corporate Member
Mike, thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings. It’s a great discussion topic and if one person is thinking about it then probably all of us at some point or another are thinking about it. I like the ebb and flow description. I feel that if I go to the shop out of obligation then I don’t enjoy it as much and my creativity is stifled….so I try to give myself the grace to only go to the shop when I feel like it….luckily, so far, most days I feel like it and when other stuff gets in the way and I can’t go into the shop it helps me want to get back in there and work in there longer. Thanks again for spurring a meaningful conversation!
 

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