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Ken Massingale

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Ken
I know Sears has/had a gizmo to turn on a shopvac when another tool is turned on.
I don't find it online at Sears and must be having a brain burp this morning since I can't come up with search terms to use.
Thanks, going for another cup...:embaresse
 

Al Millman

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Big Al
Hi Ken,
I am one of the new guy on the block but what I find works best for me is a Remote control system. It work great and I don't have to plug and unplug what ever I am using. They are may be a little more than the unit Mark referd to (from Woodcraft they are $68.99) but they are much more versital. I have been useing one for about 2 1/2 years and it works great. Just a thought.
 
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Ken Massingale

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Thanks Mark, Glenn and Al.
I was looking for this for a mitre saw dedicated vac, ummmm, 20 bucks......

I think I'll wire a duplex receptacle and a switch on the mitre saw stand, I have all the parts.

Thanks again for your time finding it for me.
 

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Dennis
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Thanks Mark, Glenn and Al.
I was looking for this for a mitre saw dedicated vac, ummmm, 20 bucks......

I think I'll wire a duplex receptacle and a switch on the mitre saw stand, I have all the parts.

Thanks again for your time finding it for me.
Sounds like a good idea. You could also break off the little tab on the side of the receptacle device between the two 'hot' brass screws & use the switch to control only one of the duplex plugs.
 

Alan in Little Washington

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Alan Schaffter
Thanks Mark, Glenn and Al.
I was looking for this for a mitre saw dedicated vac, ummmm, 20 bucks......

I think I'll wire a duplex receptacle and a switch on the mitre saw stand, I have all the parts.

Thanks again for your time finding it for me.

Ken, I don't want to be a nay sayer but you may want to rethink your plan.

As you may know in my shop the DC and "auto" blastgates are triggered by devices that work by the same principle as the Sears autoswitch. I designed my system so the blast gate for every machine is activated that way, EXCEPT the miter saw.

The miter saw is often only on for a brief amount of time, depending on how wide a board you are cutting. More often I make repetitive, quick, 2-3 second cuts. The end result with an autoswitch is that you would be cycling the vac on and off rapidly- really tough on a motor. Also, the vac might not come up to full suction fast enough and likely would not be on long enough to collect much of the dust generated and clear it out of the piping. Even if automatically turned on, you would want the vac to stay on for 15 - 20 seconds after stopping the saw, to clear out the piping and so more of the residual airborne dust is collected.

Just something to consider.
 

sediener

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Ken, I don't want to be a nay sayer but you may want to rethink your plan.

As you may know in my shop the DC and "auto" blastgates are triggered by devices that work by the same principle as the Sears autoswitch. I designed my system so the blast gate for every machine is activated that way, EXCEPT the miter saw.

The miter saw is often only on for a brief amount of time, depending on how wide a board you are cutting. More often I make repetitive, quick, 2-3 second cuts. The end result with an autoswitch is that you would be cycling the vac on and off rapidly- really tough on a motor. Also, the vac might not come up to full suction fast enough and likely would not be on long enough to collect and clear all the dust generated out of the piping. Even if automatically turned on, you would want the vac to stay on for 15 - 20 seconds after stopping the saw, to clear out the piping and so more of the residual airborne dust is collected.

Just something to consider.

I was sure there was going to be an electrical diagram and RadioShack parts list when I saw Alan replied...


How disappointing.


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McRabbet

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I was sure there was going to be an electrical diagram and RadioShack parts list when I saw Alan replied...


How disappointing.


:gar-La;
I agree in principle, but Alan would provide peer-reviewed AutoCAD schematics and components from DigiKey or McMaster-Carr!! :roll:
 

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Dennis
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There is a plug made that would do the delay, but I'm not sure it could be adapted as readily. Porter Cable makes a sander vac for drywall. The vac has a plug on it for the sander head. When the sander is turned on it activates the vac, and turning off the sander causes a 10-15 second delay before shutting down the vac to clear the hose. Not sure it'd be worth the effort to modify, but it is available.
 

Dudelive

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Dude
The Clapper is sounding better with each post:gar-Bi
Clap on, Clap off, the Clapper!

Actually it is sounding better but I bet it don't have a large enough amp rating for safety. I like the idea of a separate switch and plug where both could be powered from one switch. That way the vacuum would be started before the saw and then in the event of repetitive cuts would not be starting and stopping the vacuum thus allowing lines to clear completely. A small light could also be powered from it as a reminder.
 

Al Millman

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Big Al
I know Sears has/had a gizmo to turn on a shopvac when another tool is turned on.
I don't find it online at Sears and must be having a brain burp this morning since I can't come up with search terms to use.
Thanks, going for another cup...:embaresse
Ken,
This is a great forum, I never though you would get so much great advise, well except for maybe the Clapper. Now you have to decide which way to go.
Good Luck,
Al Millman
 
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Ken Massingale

Ken Massingale

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Ken
Thanks to all for the informative and entertaining suggestions.

I decided to get the Craftsman unit, the feature that it runs the vac for awhile after the saw stops was the deciding factor.
As Alan brought up, the saw is running for short periods and the vac needs to run for a bit to clean the hose.
I'm making a lot of repeative cuts using a stop block and find that normally I've started the next cut before the vac shuts off.
Thanks again guys
 

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I have the Craftsman unit and hook it up to my deadman peddle for my router in the table and it works great!:icon_thum:icon_thum

(It only runs the vacuum for about 5-6 seconds after I shut down the router though. Long enough for me, as the hose is only about 6 feet on the shopvac.)

Wayne
 
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