Turning a hook on a card scraper

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DaveO

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DaveO
I have had a card scraper set for a while, but have been hesitant to get a burnisher due to the high cost of one...a metal rod??? $20??? Well, I had Xmas money burning a hole in my pocket today so I got one. Can anyone provide advice on the best way to sharpen and turn a good hook on a scraper or any good links for the info. I am planning to work with some figured maple this weekend and I am hoping a good scraper will help me out. Thanks, Dave:)
 

Bernhard

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Bernhard
Dave,
The best description on how sharpen/form a hook on a scraper I 've seen is in "The Complete Guide to Sharpening" by Leonard Lee. It has a chapter on scarpers. I can email you a .pdf copy of that chapter on Monday, if you are interested. Just lemme know.

Bernhard
 
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Thanks for all the tips. I looked at the Vertas burnisher but that was even harder to swallow than the Crown that I ended up getting. I am going to give all the tips a try tonight and see what I come up with. Thanks,
Dave:)
 
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I took everyone's info and gave the techinques a try on my scraper set.
Hot Dang!!! when tuned up right those little buggers are a fine tool. I am learning more and more that if you want good results pay for the good tools. $20 for a burnisher seemed awfully high, but it did what every router, or drill bit in my shop couldn't do...made my scrapers worth using.
Here's the result of around 10 minutes of scraper tuning on curly maple.

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Thanks for the great and quick information that was provided by all. MC your video rocked.
Dave:)
 

D L Ames

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D L Ames
Boy these are all great links that everyone provided, thanks. Looking good Dave....looking good.:icon_thum I have the same card scraper set and burnishing tool that you have and I am starting to see better results when using them. I also have a gooseneck scraper that comes in handy for cleaning up saw marks left from cutting coves with the TS.

D L
 

DavidF

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David
Well done DaveO - worth it isn't it????
Screw driver shafts and drill bits just arn't hard enough. Secret for me was not using too much pressure when turning the final burr.

Have fun....
 

brenthenze

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Brent Henze
Does anyone know whether the honing steel that comes with a good kitchen knife set is a suitable substitute for a burnishing steel? I'm assuming that they're the same thing...but maybe not.
 

gator

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George
brenthenze said:
Does anyone know whether the honing steel that comes with a good kitchen knife set is a suitable substitute for a burnishing steel? I'm assuming that they're the same thing...but maybe not.

Any hardened steel rod will work. One favorite for home made burnishers is an automobile engine valve stem. I don't know about the steel that comes with a knife set as they are usually ribbed and I don't know if a burnisher has to be smooth or not.

George
 
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A burnisher has to be very smooth. The thought of using a knife steel crossed my mind but the ribs would booger up the bur. Carbide router bit shanks are supposed work well, and I've also heard of valve stems, but my truck need all of its valves:lol: :lol:
Dave:)
 

Dullblade

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Roger Hunter
I know this is an old thread but I was interested in getting a card scraper and giving it a try. First question...What are the scrapers made of? I have some od hand saw steel that I thought might work well for a homemade scraper...Yes or No? If not how much would a decent scraper cost. I didnt find any at the Home DeeeepOO or Lowses, LOL Any help here? I could go to Woodcraft but I dont get ot to Matthews to often. Thanks for anyhelp.
 

mshel

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Michael Shelley
Dullblade said:
I know this is an old thread but I was interested in getting a card scraper and giving it a try. First question...What are the scrapers made of? I have some od hand saw steel that I thought might work well for a homemade scraper...Yes or No? If not how much would a decent scraper cost. I didnt find any at the Home DeeeepOO or Lowses, LOL Any help here? I could go to Woodcraft but I dont get ot to Matthews to often. Thanks for anyhelp.

Roger,

Not having done it, I can't vouch for using a piece of a saw blade for a scraper, however I have read where others have done it and say it makes a great scraper. You can buy individual scrapers for around 5-6 bucks or a set for approximately 15 in some places. You can also get a decent burnisher for around 12 dollars or so. Places to check, Woodcraft, Rockler, or a multitude of other online stores.

MIke
 

Dullblade

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Roger Hunter
Thanks Mike. I think I will buy a set from the Woodcraft store and then just for fun try and duplicate them with the saw blade metal just to see if I can do it. Thanks for the info.

Roger:-o
 

Monty

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Monty
I have not done it either, but I have read that old saw blades are fine for scrapers. The thickness of the steel in your saw blade might be a little thinner than some cards, but it would be more flexible I guess... The sides don't have to be square to each other, but I imagine it would be helpful to get them close to square. Once they're cut, you would have to spend a little time "jointing" them on a file to form a perfectly straight line, then get to work making the hook.
 

brenthenze

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Brent Henze
Roy Underhill (of New Yankee Workshop fame) fairly regularly uses saw steel for homemade scrapers--not generally card scrapers, but specialty molding scrapers that he hand-cuts. The point of using saw steel, as he explains it, is that it's the right hardness, so I take it it'd work just as well for a hand scraper. But one other variable would be thickness. Some old saws have pretty thick steel, which would be hard to bend (a hand scraper or cabinet scraper both work by flexing, whereas molding scrapers, from what I can tell, stay straight and cut more or less in the same fashion as a lathe scraper--stiff, no flex).

Once you start using card scrapers, you'll see a lot less sandpaper--they're a real treat to use. I highly recommend getting one of the french curve scrapers, too--terrific for coves. (Woodcraft, I think, sells a set of three: rectangle, french curve, and curved end. I think I've seen this combination elsewhere, too.)
 

froglips

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Jim Campbell
Congrats!

My advice was exactly what you did.

The hours of my life I lost to trying not to buy a burnisher.....

The only lost hours I regret more were the ones I spent watching the movie Doom.

Jim
 
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