Spray-able non grainraising primer

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Strom

Strom
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Need a primer less volatile than lacquer that I can spray on bare wood and not raise the grain. Will be spaying plantation shutters I plan to make. Once the wood is primed i can use any number of water based finishes .The primer needs to be white and fast drying.Any suggestions?
 

JimD

Jim
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When I built plantation shutters for my last house I used a primer from Hood Finishing that I sprayed and then white tinted Resisthane. The louvers for the shutter were MDF so I had to sand after applying the primer but it sanded easily and fairly quickly. Both finishes dried in 2-3 hours. I painted the louvers and the rest of the shutters before assembly and then touched up after. Resisthane can also be applied with a brush.

I don't know of a finish you can apply to raw MDF that doesn't need sanded after the first coat. Usually I would also sand after applying primer to raw wood.
 

Bill Clemmons

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I think Zinnser's B-I-N comes in a spray can. It is a white, shellac based primer that dries fast and does not raise the grain. I buy it in quarts and spray it through my HVLP gun any time I have to paint a project. It can be topcoated w/ anything (water, oil, etc.)
 

AllanD

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I agree with Bill, sounds like Zinnser's shellac is what you are looking for. Also, you are probably already planning to do this, but I would finish the shutters as much as practical before you assemble. They are a real pain to finish otherwise.
 

golfdad

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Dirk
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Use Zinser too. Bill how much do you thin it to use HVLP gun?
 

Strom

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I think Zinnser's B-I-N comes in a spray can. It is a white, shellac based primer that dries fast and does not raise the grain. I buy it in quarts and spray it through my HVLP gun any time I have to paint a project. It can be topcoated w/ anything (water, oil, etc.)

That is a great idea. I had thought of shellac but needed it white. I will definitely get a quart and try it. Thanks to all for the suggestions.
 

JimD

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I made them out of 1/2 inch mdf. I had a router bit for it so 4 passes on the router table and I had a strip of louver stock. Then I cut them to length. I also made a few out of poplar and softwood for the center louver which was secured with screws instead of pivot pins to help keep the stiles straight. It was a pretty big job to make them for the whole house but I did it a few windows at a time. I doubt I will do it for this house but maybe after I get all the other projects done....
 

Strom

Strom
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I made them out of 1/2 inch mdf. I had a router bit for it so 4 passes on the router table and I had a strip of louver stock. Then I cut them to length. I also made a few out of poplar and softwood for the center louver which was secured with screws instead of pivot pins to help keep the stiles straight. It was a pretty big job to make them for the whole house but I did it a few windows at a time. I doubt I will do it for this house but maybe after I get all the other projects done....
I heard that! When I told Steve Wall what I was going to make he said just go ahead and shoot yourself now. He made a bunch of shutters for his house. I have a stash of clear soft maple I plan to use for louvers and frames. The MDF was intriguing to me and I wonder if it would work in my W&H molder? Was your router bit stock or ground for you?
 

danmart77

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I heard that! When I told Steve Wall what I was going to make he said just go ahead and shoot yourself now. He made a bunch of shutters for his house. I have a stash of clear soft maple I plan to use for louvers and frames. The MDF was intriguing to me and I wonder if it would work in my W&H molder? Was your router bit stock or ground for you?

I am wondering here?? Do these go outside of the house or inside? Maybe a photo if possible?

Dan
 

Strom

Strom
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I am wondering here?? Do these go outside of the house or inside? Maybe a photo if possible?

Dan
Dan,Right now I am gathering material and ideas for these shutters. They are movable louver interior shutters. Thanks maybe a photo or two later.
 

danmart77

Dan
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Strom
I was thinking inside when there was MDF in the discussion but just wasn't sure. The MDF sure takes paint well and it should hold up inside. When I have made adjustable slats in the past, I have used quarter sawn white pine. Nothing will out last the quality white pine and the quarter makes them much less inclined to bow after heavy sunlight and heat. I tried using yellow pine as I always have lots of it around. Not as good as the white pine by a stretch. In fairness to the yellow pine camp, some was not quartered and it bowed too much to go on with it.

I am going to put fixed louver doors outside my front doors this Spring. My house faces east/southeast and it gets hot. Too hot on the inside of the doors. I'm hoping the louvered doors absorb the heat and the circulating air will dissipate the heat. I hope.

As you can see, the dark green doors really absorb a bunch of heat. Nice in the Fall but murder in the summer. Just another project I guess.


My wife wanted the house to match the shop I built. She liked the color and that was it.


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Not much shade here.


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Stair case backfired. Mama unhappy.


Redesign phase 2. I use the upper deck a bunch and stairs work better this way.
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Sorry to be so long on the reply. I'm waiting for glue to dry.








 
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