Ready to buy a 3D printer

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Phil S

Phil Soper
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Need to purchase a 3D printer in the next couple weeks and I am taping into the group knowledge and wisdom to help with the choice. I will be printing variations of jet pump props for thrust testing. The market is filled with many models - does anybody know what is good and what is not so good
 

Woodman2k

Greg Bender
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What are the overall dimensions of your parts and what material do you need? Lots of choices but they are not all reliable.We are printing in various plastics and metal in work and are really beating on several different printers so I might be able to steer you in the right direction.
Greg
 

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Hank
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Need to purchase a 3D printer in the next couple weeks and I am taping into the group knowledge and wisdom to help with the choice. I will be printing variations of jet pump props for thrust testing. The market is filled with many models - does anybody know what is good and what is not so good
Like a CNC - size matters - think table-top versus stand-alone CNC.

What is your finished X-Y and Z size?

With 3-D printers it is part size / printable area - I will check with some people I know to see if they are happy with what they have and what they would do differently now.
 

Cbozz

Chris
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Assuming we're talking consumer level (<$4k)...

If you don't need a large build volume it's tough to beat the form1+. (5x5x6.5)

Makerbot's printers are decent but I hate the way they ripped off the open source community. Also kinda overpriced for what you get.

Flashforge probably gets the best buy.
 

Phil S

Phil Soper
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What are the overall dimensions of your parts and what material do you need? Lots of choices but they are not all reliable.We are printing in various plastics and metal in work and are really beating on several different printers so I might be able to steer you in the right direction.
Greg

Max required size is 3 x 3 x 3, but I would like the flexibility to go to 6 x 6 x 6. I will be printing with ABS but also need it to handle support material - Thanks
 

Thav

Tony
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Hi! I can't recommend Printrbot enough. Makerbot is definitely the pits. Form+1 is great for high detail prints, but the resin is awfully expensive (but again, the prints are gorgeous)

http://printrbot.com/compare-printers/

The Simple Metal is a great starter (6"x6"x6" build volume). To print anything other than PLA, you need the heated bed option. The Metal Plus gets a bigger build volume, but still needs the heated bed to print other than PLA.

Lulzbot also makes some fantastic printers, but they are more expensive than the Printrbot options. https://www.lulzbot.com/catalog. In the same price range, with the same excellent quality is Ultimaker https://shop.ultimaker.com/product/8/ultimaker-2.

Some words on filament:
PLA - Low melting temperature, very easy to print. Hard, not very springy. Can break down with exposure to UV.
ABS - Higher melting temperature, somewhat finnicky to print. More flexible than PLA (can use it for springs and clips to a degree). Good to temperatures around 150C.
Nylon - Higher temp than ABS, easier to print. Better all around, but is more expensive and requires a little research into the printers' hot ends to see if they can handle it.
Specialty filaments - Available from vendors like http://taulman3d.com/ and http://www.proto-pasta.com/, you can get flexible filaments (think stamp rubber), wood fill, clay fill, electrically conductive, carbon fiber fill, optically clear, some that are particularly good for overhangs.

PLA is by far the easiest to get your feet wet with.

Hope this helps,
-Tony
 

Chuck N

Chuck
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One good thing about the evolution of technology, the price of filament will come down. A number of entrepreneurs are working on machines to grind up common plastic bottles (soda bottles, shampoo bottles) from your recycling bin or household trash into filament for 3D printers. This recycling technology is in its infancy but with the ingenuity of American entrepreneurs, affordable homemade filament production machines should be on the market soon.

http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/20/s...turning-old-soda-bottles-into-3d-printer-ink/

http://www.psfk.com/2013/01/plastic-bottles-3d-printing-filament.html

http://www.3ddd-printers.com/3d-printer-projects/reprap-project-making-filament-for-3d-printing/
 

Thav

Tony
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The home extrusion kits and even the commercially available filament has gotten a lot better. Dimensional tolerance is super important for the filament because if your filament varies over the length of the spool, or is oval shaped so might end up with different feed rates as it turns a little bit in the extruder, you get over and under fill out of the nozzle, which leads to weak or failed prints. You can get reasonably cheap filament from Chinese suppliers via ebay and Amazon, but it's worth it to shell out a bit more to vetted filament sources.
 

KenOfCary

Ken
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You said on chat this morning you ordered one. Which one? We expect a review when you get some experience with it.
 
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