dual 240v outlets???

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kooshball

David
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I would like to have a double NEMA L6-30R outlet so that two tools that will never be used simultaneously (table saw and jointer) can remain plugged in.

Worst case I can add a 2nd outlet but it would look nicer if there were a dual receptacle like for standard 120V setups.

Does such an outlet exist??

Thanks
 

decibel

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Patrick
The closest I ever saw was the dual 20A 220 outlets. I gave up and just assumed I was looking for the impossible but maybe someone here knows where a secret stash is :dontknow:
 

Bas

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Bas
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I looked for such an outlet as well. The only options appear to be power distribution boxes or hardware used in data centers. Think expensive. Another option would be to install a single outlet but use a splitter:
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But, that probably violates the "looking nicer" criterion. It's not cheap either. Incidentally, I did not find any sort of wall plates that would fit over a duplex L6 receptacle either.
 

jhreed

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james
Buy a local disconnect such as used on an outside a/c compressor. Hard wire both tools through the disconnect. Flip the lever on the disconnect and lock out while working on tool, blade changes etc.
James
 

Alan in Little Washington

Alan Schaffter
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I don't think you will find one the size you are looking for- a duplex L6-30r would likely be too big for a standard, single gang receptacle box. Any setup like that would likely be designed for two separate circuits- the number of connections of that wire size (10 ga.) for two circuits exceeds code for a standard, single gang receptacle box. Any duplex or multiple 30 amp receptacle setup is going to be some sort of power distribution panel. You can make one of your own using a larger NEMA enclosure (like pictured below) and a cover drilled/punched for two L6-30r.

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eyekode

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Salem
Is there any problems with simply buying a double gang box and putting two single receptacles in it?
Salem
 

ehpoole

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Ethan
I would like to have a double NEMA L6-30R outlet so that two tools that will never be used simultaneously (table saw and jointer) can remain plugged in.

Worst case I can add a 2nd outlet but it would look nicer if there were a dual receptacle like for standard 120V setups.

Does such an outlet exist??

Frankly, I'm not confident that you could physically fit two L6-20/30R twist-lock receptacles in a double-gang box, there just would not be any clearance to speak of between the two plugs (or receptacles for that matter). The cover opening for an L6-20/30R should be 1.60", or 1.70", IIRC, across the [interior] face of the receptacle. Looking online, there are double outlet covers for 1.406" single receptacles (such as 6-20R) and there is only maybe 0.3-0.4", or thereabouts, clearance between the two receptacles. If you do the math it does not look like two could fit side by side and maintain a safe clearance between screw terminals -- which may well be why none exist.

If you are not deadset on twist-lock receptacles, you can obtain duplex or simplex 6-20R receptacles, in which case what you seek is possible, but at 20A rather than the 30A you specified.
 

DaveD

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Dave
If the current outlet is recessed in the wall you could buy an extension box (and put a blank cover on it) and then off the extension box mount two new surface mounted boxes, each with its own outlet/cover. If its already surface mounted you don't need the extension box.
 

mkepke

Mark
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If these L6-30 plugs are 30A twist locks then like Ethan, I doubt you can even fit two into a double-gang box.

If you could fit two, I doubt you could fit all of the 10 ga back into the box.

I think you would need a triple box - but where to get a suitable faceplate ?

At which point, you'll get a cleaner look with separate boxes.

-Mark, who has been meaning to do the same thing for more than a year now.
 

kooshball

David
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Looks like I will have to add a 2nd box. Oh well at least I am not alone in my quest for a dual 240V outlet.

Thanks for all the replies
 

kooshball

David
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I'm guessing that it is a code violation to take a 30a circuit and configure the plugs and outlets to 20a style???
 

MarkE

Mark
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I'm guessing that it is a code violation to take a 30a circuit and configure the plugs and outlets to 20a style???

Doesn't sound like a very good idea.

Here is what I had done out in the garage when it was my shop.


The right side is a 20amp(6-20R) for the DC and the right side is a 30amp (L6-30R) for the tablesaw. Both are mounted in a standard 4 gang box.
 

Bas

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Bas
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I'm guessing that it is a code violation to take a 30a circuit and configure the plugs and outlets to 20a style???
Correct. If you have a 30A breaker, you must use a 30A receptacle. The only exception to this is that you can use both 15A and 20A receptacles on a 20A circuit. You don't have to change the wire to convert the circuit to 20A, just swap out the breaker for a 20A one.
 
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